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Rates Not Going Back to Zero

Markets are pricing that the Fed funds rate will bottom at 4% in 2025 and then start rising again, see chart below. 

The same profile can be seen for the ECB, where rates will bottom at 3% and then start rising again. 

The conclusion is that long-term investors should plan on rates being permanently higher than they were from 2008 to 2020. 

In other words, rates are not going back to zero.

Interest rates are expected to stay high
Source: Bloomberg, Apollo Chief Economist

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The September data for bankruptcy filings are out, and more and more companies are going bankrupt because of Fed hikes, see the first chart below.

Bankruptcies are hitting companies with high levels of debt and low earnings in the Consumer discretionary, Healthcare, and Industrials sectors, see the second chart.

Corporate bankruptcies are rising after the Fed hikes.
Source: S&P Capital IQ, Bloomberg, Apollo Chief Economist. Note: Bankruptcy figures include public companies or private companies with public debt with a minimum of $2 million in assets or liabilities at the time of filing, in addition to private companies with at least $10 million in assets or liabilities.
Consumer discretionary, healthcare, and industrials have the most bankruptcies.
Source: S&P Capital IQ, Bloomberg, Apollo Chief Economist. Note: Bankruptcy figures include public companies or private companies with public debt with a minimum of $2 million in assets or liabilities at the time of filing, in addition to private companies with at least $10 million in assets or liabilities. Bankruptcies announced between January 1, 2023 and July 31, 2023.

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The sectors that have higher refinancing needs in 2024 are Leisure, Retail, and Capital Goods in investment grade. And Transportation, Real Estate, and Autos in high yield, see charts below.

Investment grade bonds maturities by sector in 2024
Source: ICE BofA, Bloomberg, Apollo Chief Economist
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The number of people going to the movies has in recent weeks slowed down more than the usual seasonal pattern, see chart below.

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Box office receipts are slowing rapidly.
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Higher Immigration Helping the Fed Reach Their 2% Inflation Target Faster

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Coverage Ratios Continue to Decline for IG and HY

Interest coverage ratios for September show that Fed hikes continue to have a more and more negative impact on the economy.

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The interest coverage ratio for investment grade bonds continues to fall.
Source: Bloomberg, Apollo Chief Economist
The interest coverage ratio for high yield bonds continues to fall.
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S&P500 Bifurcation

From last week’s employment report, we learned that the US economy created 336,000 jobs in September—which was better than expected. In the week ahead, we will get CPI inflation data. The consensus expects headline inflation to come in at 3.6% and core inflation to come in around 4.1%—still above the Federal Reserve’s 2% inflation target. Taken together, we can assume that the Fed is not done with raising rates. This “higher for longer” scenario is biting harder and harder on consumers and corporates. In looking at how markets are trading against this backdrop, we’ve been tracking the sizable divergence happening in the S&P500. The S&P7, the seven biggest stocks in the index, are up 50% so far this year. Meanwhile the S&P493, the vast majority of stocks in the index, are essentially flat. The bottom line is that if you buy the S&P500 today, you are basically buying a handful of companies that have an average P/E ratio of around 50.


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From last week’s employment report, we learned that the US economy created 336,000 jobs in September—which was better than expected. In the week ahead, we will get CPI inflation data. The consensus expects headline inflation to come in at 3.6% and core inflation to come in around 4.1%—still above the Federal Reserve’s 2% inflation target. Taken together, we can assume that the Fed is not done with raising rates. This “higher for longer” scenario is biting harder and harder on consumers and corporates. In looking at how markets are trading against this backdrop, we’ve been tracking the sizable divergence happening in the S&P500. The S&P7, the seven biggest stocks in the index, are up 50% so far this year. Meanwhile the S&P493, the vast majority of stocks in the index, are essentially flat. The bottom line is that if you buy the S&P500 today, you are basically buying a handful of companies that have an average P/E ratio of around 50.


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Statements made throughout this presentation are not intended to provide, and should not be relied upon for, accounting, legal or tax advice and do not constitute an investment recommendation or investment advice. Investors should make an independent investigation of the information discussed during this presentation, including consulting their tax, legal, accounting or other advisors about such information. Apollo does not act for you and is not responsible for providing you with the protections afforded to its clients. This presentation does not constitute an offer to sell, or the solicitation of an offer to buy, any security, product or service, including interest in any investment product or fund or account managed or advised by Apollo. 

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S&P500 Bifurcation

From last week’s employment report, we learned that the US economy created 336,000 jobs in September—which was better than expected. In the week ahead, we will get CPI inflation data. The consensus expects headline inflation to come in at 3.6% and core inflation to come in around 4.1%—still above the Federal Reserve’s 2% inflation target. Taken together, we can assume that the Fed is not done with raising rates. This “higher for longer” scenario is biting harder and harder on consumers and corporates. In looking at how markets are trading against this backdrop, we’ve been tracking the sizable divergence happening in the S&P500. The S&P7, the seven biggest stocks in the index, are up 50% so far this year. Meanwhile the S&P493, the vast majority of stocks in the index, are essentially flat. The bottom line is that if you buy the S&P500 today, you are basically buying a handful of companies that have an average P/E ratio of around 50.


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